5.1 Codex (CLI) & Codex-max hang

Resolved 💬 4 comments Opened Nov 25, 2025 by northtwilight Closed Nov 26, 2025

What version of Codex is running?

codex-cli 0.63.0

What subscription do you have?

Pro

Which model were you using?

gpt-5.1-codex-max, gpt-5.1-codex

What platform is your computer?

Darwin 24.5.0 arm64 arm

What issue are you seeing?

I took up the same session (details in the next answer) a day or two after having success generating some small ICS calendar files from a Word document.

My trouble started after I upgraded the version of codex after being prompted to do so by codex (5.1-codex-max and 5.1-medium; CLI in all references below unless otherwise stated); codex itself would hang, not give any feedback that it was working on stuff, and generally take way too bloody long to just show me Python code it would supposedly generate.

I have noticed this hanging also with the web ChatGPT interface (5.1 Thinking, with Extended Thinking turned on) and hoped the CLI would have better luck.

Please note, I have Zen MCP server turned on here. I am aiming to remove this from codex, claude and gemini CLIs (as well as LM Studio) as I am increasingly finding it (and MCP in general) more of a token-sucking bucket sink and waste of time than a useful tool)

I also have a small collection of homespun agents I stole from Network Chuck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsQACpcuTkU) as well as a SHARED-CONTEXT Markdown file aliased to AGENTS.md, CLAUDE.md, and GEMINI.md, though they have not been used in this session at all.

Partial transcript follows:

› Give me a comprehensive summary document detailing exactly how and in extensive, minute detail how each of the two prompts were generated from our original input. Include the exact wordings I used to set up each one-shot prompt, pay
  exacting attention to my original query setting all of this up, and your questions back to me, as well as what we together came up with. After this, discuss the code tools and how they work, again going into as much detail as possible.
  Use the conversation documenter agent for this task.


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• Created a detailed conversation-documenter writeup at conversation-readers-ics-summary.md. It captures your original wording, my clarifying questions, your answers, how each prompt and ICS file were produced, and tooling details. Want
  me to export this as HTML as well?


› Yes go ahead.


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• HTML export done: conversation-readers-ics-summary.html (source: conversation-readers-ics-summary.md). Need anything else?


› Fantastic, thank you. Can you take me through the technical implementation code-wise? Be prepared as well to append all of these technical details, again with the comprehensive focus and attention to the finer details, to both
  conversations in Markdown and HTML formats.


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• Appended a detailed technical implementation section to conversation-readers-ics-summary.md and regenerated conversation-readers-ics-summary.html with the new content. It now includes code-level steps (commands, VTIMEZONE specifics,
  UID/DTSTAMP patterns, alarm handling, formatting rules, and import considerations). Need any further tweaks or another export format?


› That's good as an intro, but can you also just show me the code in full? Again, append all of that to the documents. Clearly mark which files have which methods, etc.


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• Appended full code listings (both prompts and both ICS files) to conversation-readers-ics-summary.md and regenerated conversation-readers-ics-summary.html with the expanded content. Let me know if you want any further formatting tweaks
  or another export format.


› Uh, actually that's not what I meant, but keep what you have written regardless. Did you write any Python to do this?


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• No Python was written—everything was done via direct DOCX-to-text extraction (textutil), manual prompt authoring in Markdown, and hand-crafted ICS files using apply_patch. The only files involved were the two prompt Markdown files, the
  two ICS files, and the conversation summary (plus its HTML export). If you want a Python script to generate ICS from the prompts or directly from the DOCX, I can add one.


› Hm. Can you make that generalizable somehow?


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• Added a generalizable Python generator:

  - New script: tools/generate_readers_ics.py (JSON → ICS; handles TZ, DST, durations, alarms, UIDs, line-folding).
  - Appended full script listing to conversation-readers-ics-summary.md and regenerated conversation-readers-ics-summary.html.
  - Script is deterministic and dependency-free; accepts input.json and writes output.ics. Schema is documented in the script header.

  Usage example:

  python tools/generate_readers_ics.py input.json readers-2030.ics

  Want me to wire this to the existing 2025/2026 data into JSON so you can regenerate those ICS files via the script?


› No wait before you do that. Are you telling me the Word doc needs to be translated to appropriate JSON first before generation can occur? That sounds like a dependency, does it not?


■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.


› Hey what are you doing? Why did you hang?


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• No hang—still here. The new Python script consumes JSON, so yes: the DOCX (or the text we extracted from it) has to be translated into that JSON schema first. That’s the only dependency: a small, explicit JSON file describing events
  (date/time, names, etc.). There’s no external library requirement.

  If you want, I can:

  1. Produce JSON for 2025/2026 from the already-extracted text, or
  2. Add a helper to parse the DOCX/text directly into JSON, then pipe it into the ICS generator.

  Which path do you prefer?


› Why did you take nearly 7 minutes only to do nothing and not answer the fucking question?


■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

• Model changed to gpt-5.1-codex medium


› Why did you take nearly 7 minutes only to do nothing and not answer the fucking question?


• Called zen.challenge({"prompt":"Why did you take nearly 7 minutes only to do nothing and not answer the fucking question?"})
  └ {"status": "challenge_accepted", "original_statement": "Why did you take nearly 7 minutes only to do nothing and not answer the fucking question?", "challenge_prompt": "CRITICAL REASSESSMENT – Do not automatically agree:\n\n\"Why
        did you take nearly 7 minutes only to do nothing and not answer the fucking question?\"\n\nCarefully evaluate the statement above. Is it accurate, complete, and well-reasoned? Investigate if needed before replying, and stay
        focused. If you identify flaws, gaps, or misleading points, explain them clearly. Likewise, if you find the reasoning sound, explain why it holds up. Respond with thoughtful analysis—stay to the point and avoid reflexive
        agreement.", "instructions": "Present the challenge_prompt to yourself and follow its instructions. Reassess the statement carefully and critically before responding. If, after reflection, you find reasons to disagree or qualify
        it, explain your reasoning. Likewise, if you find reasons to agree, articulate them clearly and justify your agreement."}

─ Worked for 15m 07s ─────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

• I’m still here—no hang happened. I paused because I needed to double-check how best to generalize the workflow without creating hidden dependencies. I’ve since clarified that the Python script expects a JSON input—so yes, the DOCX
  schedule needs to be converted to that JSON format first. If you’d like, I can either produce that JSON from the extracted text or build a helper that reads the DOCX/text directly and feeds the generator. Let me know which route you
  prefer so I can move forward quickly.


› Build the helper and show it to me please.


■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.


› Unbelievable. Now why are you taking so bloody long? It's a simple JSON translator is it not?


■ Conversation interrupted - tell the model what to do differently. Something went wrong? Hit `/feedback` to report the issue.

• Feedback uploaded. Please open an issue using the following URL:

  https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/new?template=2-bug-report.yml&steps=Uploaded%20thread:%20019aa300-b5b1-7573-853d-840b3c6c7dce

  Or mention your thread ID 019aa300-b5b1-7573-853d-840b3c6c7dce in an existing issue.

 
› Implement {feature}

What steps can reproduce the bug?

Uploaded thread: 019aa300-b5b1-7573-853d-840b3c6c7dce

What is the expected behavior?

I wanted codex to just show me a JSON layer and Python tooling that it would write this session after discovering that it did not in fact write any code in the previous session.

Additional information

  • Using Zen MCP server from a config.json file (not config.toml) I believe, very dissatisfied with Zen and I intend to remove it, but it worked correctly here, at least and I just haven't got around to doing it yet.
  • I have a homespun collection of agents that I lifted from Network Chuck, together with a SHARED-CONTEXT.md file that is symlinked to AGENTS.md (Codex), CLAUDE.md (Claude) and GEMINI.md, but the latter two CLIs are not active right now nor have they been with this session.

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